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Tongloid Tarthwood · Oct 17, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Eles need a bit of a boost. How many threads are there out there complaining about eles? We need to rise up and ask for a boost. The handbook implies that they are the best at damage dealing, and they should be. Elemental casters should be the best damage dealers, and to stop them ruling the game, they have low armour.

Any kind of boost would be good. Well, not any. However, if you could just increase the damage of all our spells by 100, that would be great.

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Dr Strangelove · Oct 17, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

The trouble with increasing ele damage is the spikes. Starbursters, obsidian flamers, and air is already used heavily in spiking. When eles combine AoE such as MS, everything drops pretty quickly. Yes, warriors and sins do more damage, but massive AoE spike of everything by one or two people? I dunno....

frojack · Oct 17, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

By 100? Are you insane? I'd say they just need a little boost here and there. More energy efficient damage if anything. They are currently not entirely useless at damage. They are just rubbish at dps. With a touch of innuendo, they just can't last the distance.

That's it. Increasing damage by 100 is ludicrous at best and completely devoid of any insight to balance (or reality for that matter) at the other end of the scale.

Two spells should not be able to unconditionally kill a light-armour class with full health. That is the Guild Wars you envision...

/Not Signed, for that silly suggestion...

/Signed, for new energy ideas. As in tweak Energy Storage or something (Think 'ritualist'. I dunno). In fact, some of these are arriving in less than 2 weeks...

Whatever... _-_

Zuranthium · Oct 17, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Can a moderator please merge this with the Elementalist thread I just created that is far more extensive and actually does something besides offer pointless suggestions (+100 damage to all spells, WTF)?

NinjaKai · Oct 17, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tongloid Tarthwood

Eles need a bit of a boost. How many threads are there out there complaining about eles? We need to rise up and ask for a boost. The handbook implies that they are the best at damage dealing, and they should be. Elemental casters should be the best damage dealers, and to stop them ruling the game, they have low armour.

Any kind of boost would be good. Well, not any. However, if you could just increase the damage of all our spells by 100, that would be great.

/sign if you like
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Only problem with your idea is that you haven't justified your reasons. For any idea to be taken seriously a random suggestion won't cut it.

Taurus · Oct 17, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

STOP with the whining ffs. Elementalists doesnt need any kind of buff, if you think Eles are not that good its only becoz your current ele build S U C K S. Elementalists were in the 2 builds that won the 2 world championships, nuff said.

UBS · Oct 17, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

/notsigned

Rise by 100? LOL.
You do realise eles were buffed? They have the biggest range of utility in the game. They do fast damage, protection from earth, powerful energy primaries and skills, and you still want a buff?

Terra Xin · Oct 17, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Ele's are also the most nerfed profession as well, remember that.

Bring it on, my Channeling rit will still outpower you :P.

kazjun · Oct 17, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

/not signed

An extra +100? You're out of your mind. You think you're a factions ele boss or something? Ele's already do good damage, unless you're using firestorm for damage. In which case, well...

TadaceAce · Oct 18, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus

STOP with the whining ffs. Elementalists doesnt need any kind of buff, if you think Eles are not that good its only becoz your current ele build S U C K S. Elementalists were in the 2 builds that won the 2 world championships, nuff said.

I'm sorry don't ban me for this one but are we talking about the same ele? This is that guy that plays a wammo and sucks really really really really bad and then goes to hit ele and only sucks really bad and thinks his ele is amazing.

Those eles did probably 1000 total damage the entire time too... they don't nuke they sit there and blind the warriors because warriors are real damage threats.

And people... he was being sarcastic about the +100 damage ><

freekedoutfish · Oct 18, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tongloid Tarthwood

Eles need a bit of a boost. How many threads are there out there complaining about eles? We need to rise up and ask for a boost. The handbook implies that they are the best at damage dealing, and they should be. Elemental casters should be the best damage dealers, and to stop them ruling the game, they have low armour.

Any kind of boost would be good. Well, not any. However, if you could just increase the damage of all our spells by 100, that would be great.

/sign if you like
/sign if you no like
/sign if you wish for an alternative to /sign

/unsigned

Normally Im all "yey, go for it" when people suggest improving the ele profession, because my main is an ele and I love him.

I take great pleasure listening to all these comments about "ele's being useless" and then once in a team, I blow all the mobs away and everyones "your ele rules".

But your suggestion is to add 100 damage to all skills?

Thats a bit over-the-top.

When im using my ele in his 15k granit armor, he has sup fire damage. This means he has a max of about 119 damage on meteor shower and alike.

That is ALOT of damage.

If that was increased to 219, then it would take the fun out of the game. Creatures and mobs would be no challenge at all.

It would be like taking my lvl20 nuker to ascalon and using fireball to take out creatures with one shot. Its not fun and it gets boring.

I admit that some elemental skills need to do more damage, by maybe 5-10+, but no where near 100+.

But the majority are fine.

If anything, we need to remove the scatter effect from most of the new fire skills (most of which were added thanks to factions).

Plus remove exhaustion from some if not all.

The ONE MAIN pain about elementals is when their struck with exhaustion and it takes, youve run down all your energy (which can happen, despite attunement), and it takes about 2 minutes to recharge.

During that time your useless, unless someone has blood ritual.

Thom Bangalter · Oct 18, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Factions looks to fix some of the issues with them.

Additionally, @taurus: the e/mos in the world championships ain't there to pump out showers, they're mostly there to use draw on the real damage dealers and spam heal party, and ensign decided to rape some npcs in the process.

They're actually a very versatile and important class, but everyone just wants their glyph of renewal+echo+meteor shower builds to be as good as a warrior with cleave, something that doesn't really make sense.

legion_rat · Oct 18, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

eles need a buff but if its damage its not much of one. Exhaustion is a huge pain in the butt. Several people have already said that eles are versitle, and they are. the two classes ele and ranger pwn in pvp and pve. Its more about the player/build. Heres a news flash:

IF YOU SUCK AS A WARRIOR THEN YOUR WARRIOR SUCKS
IF YOU SUCK AS A ELEMENTALIST THEN YOUR ELEMENTALIST SUCKS

the list could go on and on but it doesnt need to. Find your strength and play it or keep playing the "suck" proffs until you are good with them. I love my assassin and am decent with her. but i have seen other sins pwn me with them. does it mean all sins suck? No. I just need to practice more and try new builds. Suck it up quit your 8!7<}{!N9 and play something else if you cant use an ele.

~the ranting rat~